But I’m learning, and I wouldn’t make that call with 55 anymore.

Although apparently I’m not learning enough, because I have no idea what EV is that Monro mentions.

In any case, my suggestion is to stop assuming that us donkeys are not donkeys, and instead just whoop the donkeys and win big money!

An example of a rudimentary error that I see all the time would be something like this:

early in a sit ‘n go, everyone has around 2000 chips. blinds are 50-100. you have no reads on anyone. you’re sitting in middle position with 55 and the player UTG 1 raises to 300. this is a clear fold, but many players call the 300 in that spot. it’s a very common error. even if you were sitting on the button with 55 and the player in the cutoff made the same openraise, absent any reads, i’d say 55 is a push/fold, not a call.

this is the kind of preflop error i’m talking about. i am always surprised at how willing players are to invest large percentages of their stacks with hands that they don’t intend to play through to the river.

i dont want to speak for David, but imo rudimentary errors would be moves that(no matter what style u play) are going to give you a negative EV in the long run. this is an interesting subject bec there r so many plays that may appear to be “errors” by other players but actually are not “errors” bec of the style of play that player uses and what he/she is trying to accomplish. sometimes certain players want to project an image of being super loose or even just a donk in order to trick the competition — i will note that i dont know any good players that actually try and play “bad” to sculpt a donk image. usually this “donk image” is created by the confusion and/or understimation that good players cause when making “out of the box” plays that appear “donkish/bad” to a low level thinking player, like raising 57 suited utg @ a full table during the first level of a deepstacked event or calling a 3 way all in with 10 J suited when its for less than 15% of your stack. I could go as far as to argue that certain single mathematically -ev plays are correct at certain times because of the position it puts me in if i win the hand as compared to if i lose the hand, and/or the image it gives me when someone decides to call me bec im a “donk” or “super loose” when the pot is much more valuable during future hands

this subject is so key to mtt play and relates to a lot of things i have been thinking about recently. i think its almost impossible to define rudimentary errors without taking the style of play into considerastion especially for advanced players. i used to watch people make plays that i thought were bad and now i know for sure they are not. there are plays that i think are bad(or wouldnt occur to me today) that i hopefully will accept and have in my arsenal in the near future.